For a spy boss Mike Burgess is unusually chatty. The incoming head of ASIO has been the most public of the intelligence chiefs during his 18 months as head of the Australian Signals Directorate.
He's made speeches, given interviews and even engaged in some gentle trolling on Twitter.
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Angus Grigg is an investigative reporter based in Sydney. He has worked as a foreign correpondent in China and Indonesia, and has won two Walkley Awards. Connect with Angus on Twitter. Email Angus at agrigg@afr.com