Logan Dreier inquest: Officer following stolen ute ‘didn’t believe they were in chase’
A police officer following a speeding stolen ute through Southport and Ashmore did not even believe they were in a chase until moments before a fatal crash, an inquest has been told.
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A POLICE officer following a speeding stolen ute through Southport and Ashmore did not believe they were in a chase until moments before a fatal crash, an inquest has been told.
Logan Dreier, 18, died when the ute he was driving flipped multiple times as he tried to negotiate the corner of Southport-Nerang Rd and Queen St about 9.30am on Friday, August 9, 2019.
He was being pursued by multiple police vehicles, including cars and motorbikes.
Logan had stolen the ute from Movie World while on the run from police following a break-in at Maudsland that morning.
The action of police on the day of his death has been examined during a hearing in the Southport Coroner’s Court. It was previously told there were problems with who was in control of the pursuit and a lack of radio communications.
Gold Coast road policing unit officer-in-charge Senior Sergeant Brayden Murphy, who was the lead vehicle for a majority of the chase, said he did not believe he was in a pursuit until just before the ute flipped.
Sen Sgt Murphy was on a police motorbike.
He told the inquest on Wednesday that when he got up to speeds of 173km/h while on the M1 – including while driving in the breakdown lane – he was simply following the vehicle, not pursuing it.
Sen Sgt Murphy said he was trying to maintain distance from the ute to keep it in sight, but also chose to stay on the opposite side of the M1 than the vehicle in an effort to hide himself from the driver’s sight.
The inquest was told Sen Sgt Murphy lost sight of the white ute when he turned off on to the Southport-Nerang Rd exit.
He came up behind it moments later.
“I wasn’t aware where the offender had gone,” he said.
“There was a communication that they were southbound on the M1 and that’s when I literally drove up behind him.”
Sen Sgt Murphy said Logan Dreier had driven normally on Southport-Nerang Rd until he saw his police bike.
He told the court he hung back so he could follow at a distance. The ute then did a u-turn and almost ran over a police trail bike.
Sen Sgt Murphy said he made a radio transmission to command about where the vehicle was – it would be the last transmission until the fatal crash.
The inquest was told the ute would then drive on the wrong side of the road on Olsen Ave, on to the footpath before doing a u-turn.
It would then turn into the dead-end Hinde St, Ashmore where police hoped to block it off.
Sen Sgt Murphy said it was here he believed the pursuit began.
Body-worn camera, dashcam and CCTV footage showed Sen Sgt Murphy following the ute on to Southport-Nerang Rd at speed, dropping back before overtaking a police sedan to follow the ute.
The ute would then crash.
Sen Sgt Murphy also told the inquest:
* He tried to make calls multiple times but other officers spoke over him on the radio;
* He did not believe he needed to make calls as others were telling command where the stolen ute was;
* He had not had a disciplinary hearing but had undergone local management which included doing subsequent online training;
* He felt on the day of the pursuit there were a number of levels of command but no one was taking charge;
* He thought the pursuit was going to end by police using road spikes;
* He did not see the crash, he just saw someone lying on the road and the ute on its side.
Deputy state coroner Jane Bentley will now consider the evidence from the inquest before delivering her findings in the coming months.
JULY 23: POLICE PURSUIT POLICY ‘CONFUSING’, TRAFFIC COP TELLS INQUEST
THE police pursuit policy is “confusing” according to a traffic police officer with more than 30 years experience.
Gold Police road policing unit Sergeant Ian Hayden made the comment in the Southport Coroner’s Court on Friday.
The court is examining the death of Logan Dreier, 18, who died when the stolen ute he was driving flipped multiple times on the corner of Southport-Nerang Rd and Queen St about 9.30am on Friday, August 9, 2019 while being pursued by multiple police cars.
Logan had stolen the ute from MovieWorld while on the run from police following a break-in in Maudsland.
Sgt Hayden said on Friday: “(The police pursuits policy) is confusing.
“Just in relation to who your pursuit controllers are, the conditions you can have a pursuit.
“It’s just confusing … it could be realigned.”
Sgt Hayden was one of the first police to spot the stolen ute as it left MovieWorld.
He and Senior Sergeant Brayden Murphy, the officer-in-charge of the Gold Coast road policing unit, followed it down the M1, at times their bikes reached speeds of 170km/hr.
Sgt Hayden said he lost track of the ute when it exited the M1.
He said he heard the chatter on the radio but could not determine where the ute was.
He did not see it again until the crash.
Sgt Hayden said motorbikes were helpful during pursuits as they had better manoeuvrability and could travel at higher speeds.
But he said four-wheeled vehicles should be the primary pursuer.
“When you look at most police vehicles there are two people in there and you can share what is going on, like operating the radio,” he said.
“A police motorcycle can do it, but it is just less stressful (for a four-wheel vehicle).”
The inquest continues.
‘DIDN’T HAVE THE LOGIN’
THE officer-in-charge of the Gold Coast’s high-tech police centre the day a teenager was killed in a crash following a police pursuit could not access the map which showed where police were located because he did not have a login, a court has heard.
Logan Dreier, 18, died when the stolen ute he was driving flipped multiple times on the corner of Southport-Nerang Rd and Queen St about 9.30am on Friday, August 9, 2019 while being pursued by multiple police cars.
Logan had stolen the ute from MovieWorld while on the run from police following a break-in in Maudsland.
Queensland Police Acting Senior Sergeant Rob Finlay told the fifth day of the inquest in the Southport Coroner’s Court on Friday that he was acting as the district duty officer (DDO) at the District Tasking Coordination Centre (DTAC) on the day of the crash.
DTAC is a command centre built for the Commonwealth Games which allows officers to access the Gold Coast City Council CCTV system and police systems to help provide support for officers on the road.
Sen Sgt Finlay said there was a mapping system which allowed officers to see where police cars and motorbikes were located, but there was a lag.
On that day he could not access the maps, Sen Sgt Finlay told the court.
“You needed logins to get into specific mapping systems and they were associated to a user ID,” he said.
“Being someone who was acting (in the position), I didn’t have a login to that system.”
Sen Sgt Finlay also told the inquest:
• There was confusion about where the vehicles were during the pursuit due to lack of communication.
• Police officers are confused about the police pursuit policy due to conflicting information they receive, including a myth of a “non-pursuit policy”.
• He did not recall the communications co-ordinator (com-co) speaking on the radio during the pursuit despite the com-co being the person in command of any pursuit under police pursuit policy.
• Sen Sgt Finlay used a commercially available satellite map, NearMap, to help work out the surroundings during the pursuit.
• He did not recall any garbled communications.
• More “real world” training was needed for officers in pursuits.
• Refresher courses in driver training were available for police officers but “difficult to get”.
• The police helicopter is only rostered on 20 hours per week.
• The police helicopter and dog squads were not available that day.
• If he knew a car had crossed a main road, done a u-turn in front of oncoming traffic and then mounted the footpath as Logan had done on Olsen Ave, he would have called off the pursuit.
Sen Sgt Finlay said that officers were often confused about the police pursuit policy because of the conflicting information they received.
He said more training was needed.
“Officers here are not exposed to pursuits or what it should sound like on the radio,” he said.
“Training is important in a real world context.
“There is training on a track and then there is training in an area where you have people on the road.
“It’s real world training that’s important.”
The current police pursuit policy allows for pursuits under certain conditions including if it was a life-threatening condition, there had been or was potential for a murder or attempted murder or an indictable offence had occurred.
When a pursuit occurs the communications co-ordinator should take control and the lead pursuit vehicle, ideally a four-wheel vehicle, should regularly provide updates.
The com-co or lead pursuit vehicle should call off the pursuit if it becomes unsafe to the community, police or the offender.
The inquest continues.
MUM’S AGONY OVER SOCIAL MEDIA TROLLS
THE mother of a teenager killed when the stolen ute he was driving crashed while being pursued by police has hit out at social media trolls who said her son “deserved to die”.
Logan Dreier died after crashing on the corner of Nerang Rd and Queen St, Southport on August 9, 2019.
The 18-year-old was being pursued by police after stealing a ute from Movie World.
On day four of the inquest into his death, the Dreier’s lawyer shared an emotional statement written by Logan’s mother, who did not want to be named.
She told of how Logan was the “biggest ray of sunshine” in their lives, had a heart of gold and how the family would never be the same after Logan’s death.
“Our family will never be the same. The hurt and pain will feel every day is indescribable,” she said.
“He was a troubled kid who fell into the wrong crowd. He might have made mistakes, but he didn’t deserve to die. He was a young man who never had a chance to learn from his mistakes.”
Logan’s mother told of how she had been subjected to social media condemnation during the inquest, which had tested her emotional limits.
“I have been subjected to social media damnation for being a bad parent and comments like my beautiful son deserved to die,” she said.
“These comments make me angrier about the fact the pursuit could have been stopped and Logan’s death prevented.
“Somehow saying, ‘It breaks my heart’, does not convey my pain.”
‘DIFFICULT TO KNOW’ WHO WAS IN CHARGE OF CASE
FOUR police officers involved in the fatal pursuit of Logan Dreier claimed sporadic information and “radio chatter” made it difficult to know who was in charge during the chase.
The 18-year-old was being pursued by multiple police vehicles southbound on the M1 after he stole a ute from Movie World.
Logan died after crashing on the corner of Nerang Rd and Queen St, Southport on August 9, 2019.
The circumstances of his death and the appropriateness of the police response are being examined at an inquest in the Southport Coroner’s Court.
Queensland Police officers Senior Constable Bradley Harris, Senior Constable Matthew Gillies, Senior Constable Troy Hamilton and Senior Constable Jason McGuinness gave evidence during day four of the inquest.
All four officers said the communication over the radio was messy and sporadic and had trouble providing information about the incident.
Sen-Constable McGuinness, who was riding a motorcycle during the chase, told the court he assumed the pursuit controller was the communications co-ordinator.
“Because in the OPM (operational procedures manual) it states that the comm co would assume that role,” he said.
“I think the level of control can be, how would you say, influenced by communication as well.
“The communications seemed to be for some reason, seemed to be a bit messy and a bit sporadic. When you tried to get on the radio you couldn’t get on … There were snippets of information coming in by different crews.”
When asked who was in control of the pursuit, Sen-Constable Hamilton said: “I don’t know.”
“I did hear the RDO (regional district officer) ask for situational reports in regard to the vehicle’s location, manner of driving et cetera, which is part of the risk assessment and I did hear that on a few occasions and I did respond,” he said.
“I assumed the primary pursuit vehicle and the comm co (communications co-ordinator).”
Sen-Constable Matthew Gillies said communication during the pursuit wasn’t consistent and he “didn’t know what was going on”.
“They’re all different and unique in their own situation and the circumstances are different on each occasion.
“Again, there was a lot of police involved in this particular matter. I think that possibly caused issues with the radio traffic with everyone trying to communicate their intentions and actions.”
He said based on radio traffic he made the assumption the controller of the pursuit was Senior Sergeant Braydn Murphy and the communications co-ordinator.
“However, we did have a number of tiers of management working that day.”
Officer in charge of driving skills Acting Senior Sergeant Jasmine McCormick said all recruits were taught pursuit and interception driving skills during their time at the police academy.
“It’s a five-day practical course. It has quite a bit of pre-learning before they get here,” Act Snr Sgt McCormick said.
“They basically do around 11 hours of pre-learning before they come to us, and when they do come to us, it’s a five day course.”
She said recruits were taught skills to drive under vigorous conditions and what their psychological state would be while under stress.
“We talk about heart rate, breathing, we ask them to stand on their tippy toes if they find themselves shaking, we talk about tunnel vision or truth illusion, all of those things affect your ability to drive if you don’t know how to control those things.”
DAY THREE: POLICE BOSS ‘NOT SURE’ WHY HE DIDN’T CALL OFF CHASE
The police officer in charge of a fatal police pursuit “is not sure” why he didn’t call off the chase despite it becoming dangerous.
Sergeant Dave Martin was the communications co-ordinator in charge of a police pursuit that ended with the death of 18-year-old Logan Dreier on August 9, 2019.
Logan was being pursued by multiple police vehicles southbound on the M1 after he stole a ute from Movie World.
He died after he was thrown from the cab when it crashed on the corner of Nerang Rd and Queen St, Southport.
The circumstances of his death and the appropriateness of police response are being examined at an inquest in the Southport Coroner’s Court.
On day three of the inquest the court was told Logan exceeded the speed limit, drove on the wrong side of the road twice and ran a red light.
When asked why the pursuit was not terminated, Sgt Martin, who has 10 years’ experience as a communications co-ordinator, told the court “I’m not sure”.
Sgt Martin said he didn’t think he was in charge of the pursuit and thought the duty officer in Brisbane would take over, despite not notifying them.
“This whole time the RDO (regional duty officer) was transmitting, ‘Is anyone in pursuit?’. That came over continually, two or three times, ‘Is anyone in pursuit?’ and no one was answering,” Sgt Martin said.
“But I believed someone was in pursuit.
“I think when I heard the wrong side of the road and mention of 100km/h, which I think is in a built up area, I think that’s when I walked back and I think while I was reading the incident, having a think about it, I think literally a minute later the vehicle crashed.
“I think there was possibly a minute, a minute and a half between that transition and the crash and I was thinking of terminating it at that stage.
Sgt Martin faced disciplinary action for contravention of a policy.
Earlier, the court heard a Queensland Police radio operator who took a call that officers were in pursuit of a stolen ute had no direction from Sgt Martin, her supervisor, during the chase.
Duty officer Senior Constable Michelle Phillips, who was in the communications room at the time of the incident, said at one point she walked over to Sgt Martin to tell him about the pursuit and turned his radio on.
She said during the incident Sgt Martin did not speak or write any notes on the job card.
“All I had seen from the comm co (communications co-ordinator) was that he had approved the job. I told him, ‘Do you realise there’s a pursuit happening?’ and he said ‘Oh,” Senior Const. Phillips said.
Queensland Police radio operator Claudia Nicholls took the call that officers were in pursuit of Logan.
It was the first pursuit Ms Nicholls was involved in since starting in the role nine months earlier.
Ms Nicholls said she yelled across the room to tell her supervisor Sergeant David Martin there was a pursuit but he did not respond.
It wasn’t until “a few hours” after the incident that Sgt Martin spoke with Ms Nicholls for a routine debrief.
A police officer involved in the pursuit told the court he got to a point where he abandoned the pursuit because it had become too risky.
Senior Constable Hugh Harverson was trying to track Logan on his trail bike to provide officers with more information about the ute and the driver.
He said he helped another officer to stop traffic at the intersection near Kamholtz Court, Molendinar when he saw Logan speed past.
“At some point you need to make a decision about whether you want to get involved in something,” Snr Const. Harverson said.
“Pursuits are dangerous, let’s be honest, it’s a dangerous thing. You’re making calls and you’re constantly assessing it and it was my assessment.
“I got to the point where I had made my assessment and I didn’t want to be involved.”
Snr Const. Harverson said he was returning to the station when he heard over the radio that Logan had crashed.
The lawyer representing Logan’s family said footage of the aftermath showed Snr Const. Harverson attended to Logan and conducted himself in a“very professional manner”.
Snr Const. Harverson wiped away tears as Logan’s lawyer thanked him for his professionalism during the moments after the fatal crash.
“When you arrived at the scene you attended immediately to Logan’s injuries. You did it in a professional way and while directing others.
“You did it in a professional, cool, calm and collective manner and gave Logan the best chance he could have at the scene and that has not gone without thanks from the family.”
EARLIER, JULY 20
A POLICE motorbike was going more than 170km/h on the shoulder of the M1 as it tried to chase a stolen ute, a court was told.
A senior police officer said that type of driving on the M1 “wasn’t unique” and other incidents saw similar driving.
The ute, pursued by multiple police vehicle, would later flip throwing its driver, 18-year-old Logan Dreier, from the cab. He later died.
The circumstances of his death and the appropriateness of police response are being examined at an inquest in the Southport Coroner’s Court.
Former Queensland police south eastern regional duty officer Inspector Ray Vine said about the fatal crash following the pursuit: “Its’ not something that anyone wants to come to work and be involved in.
“It’s a terrible situation and it never should have happened.”
He said on Tuesday he was not aware Senior Sergeant Brayden Murphy was travelling at 173km/hr on his police trail bike, in the breakdown lane on the M1 in pursuit of the stolen ute.
“I didn’t have any reason to consider that attempts to intercept should be abandoned,” Insp Vine said.
“If he had broadcast he was travelling at that speed, I may have formed an opinion.”
Asked what he would do knowing all the factors, Insp Vine said: “The benefit of hindsight, if I was aware that was occurring in terms of overtaking on the Pacific Motorway, I would have perhaps terminated it (the pursuit).”
Insp Vine, who has faced disciplinary action over his handling of the pursuit, said he was aware there were problems with the radios.
He said he had been working a shift the previous day in the Logan area and the communications were regularly dropping out.
He said he believed this was the case while police were pursuing Logan.
Insp Vine said the incident was “quite hectic” and agreed that he did not have the information he needed such as where vehicles were, their speed and direction.
He agreed that he should have disengaged the pursuit.
“I consider that because of the gaps in information it was certainly hindering my ability to make informed decisions and by that alone I should have disengaged,” he said.
Insp Vine said he agreed that police needed more training in how to use their radios in high risk situations, including what information is necessary.
He said the disciplinary proceedings he had to undergo included completing a number of training modules.
Insp Vine said he had not changed his practices but he had “learnt some valuable lessons about getting situational awareness”.
The inquest continues.
SHOCK CHASE CLAIM: ‘WE CAN TRACK A PIZZA BETTER THAN A COP CAR’
CROOKS are “driving like lunatics” knowing police cannot chase them if they drive dangerously, a senior police officer has told a court, adding it’s easier to track a pizza than a police car.
Gold Coast police district duty officer Senior Sergeant Aaron Ottaway made the claim during the second day of the inquest in the Southport Coroner’s Court into the death of Logan Dreier.
The 18-year-old died after the stolen ute he was driving flipped multiple times on the corner of Southport-Nerang Rd and Queen St about 9.30am on August 9, 2019 while being pursued by multiple police cars. He was flung into the air from the vehicle after speeds of up to 140 km/h at times.
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Logan had stolen the ute from MovieWorld while on the run from police following a break-in in Maudsland.
Sen Sgt Ottaway, who has 30 years experience, revealed shocking details about how police operate during the inquest, including:
- Crooks knowing police cannot chase cars driving dangerously;
- Not enough information was being relayed over the radio during the pursuit;
- Officers do not receive driver training after they leave the academy;
- Pursuit training is online based;
- A junior constable’s radio can override a transmission by the communications command;
- Police cars are not marked with call signs on the roof, meaning the helicopter cannot identify the car;
- He had gaffer taped the roof of his police car to make it identifiable to the helicopter;
- It is easier to track a pizza delivery than it is a police officer.
Sen Sgt Ottaway said the Queensland Police Service actively discouraged officers from continuing pursuits due to the danger to the community, police and people they are pursuing.
He said offenders knew this.
“I know that from talking to the crooks myself,” he said. “They just drive them (stolen cars) like lunatics because they know the cops can’t do anything about it.”
Sen Sgt Ottaway, who has 30 years experience, was involved in the first part of the pursuit and said the police communications was poor after Logan left MovieWorld.
He said he remained at MovieWorld to help track where the other teens involved in the break-in at Helensvale had gone.
Sen Sgt Ottaway said the information being relayed over the radio system was not adequate.
“When I did listen to the radio, I did not understand where that vehicle was or the direction it was travelling,” he said.
He said that was not entirely the fault of the officers involved.
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The first day of the inquest was told that senior officers’ requests for information of their location and speed were ignored.
Sen Sgt Ottaway said a situation like that could have been avoided with more training, particularly using the police radio in high pressure situations.
“When we train with firearms or handcuffs, we are physically doing it and placed under pressure in a training scenario,” he said.
“Perhaps some training for officers simply communicating correctly over radios whilst under pressure would assist in communications, which is often one of the many problems we have in dynamic incidents.”
He said training given to officers about pursuits and the policies surrounding it was all online-based.
Sen Sgt Ottaway was asked if the communications command could track where officer vehicles were on the road.
“We can map a pizza better than we can map a police officer,” he said.
The inquest continues.
INQUEST DAY ONE: DRIVER ‘PLANNED TO KEEP RUNNING FROM POLICE’
LOGAN Dreier has planned to keep running from police until “he could not drive anymore”, a court has been told.
Logan, 18, died when the stolen ute he was driving flipped multiple times on the corner of Southport-Nerang Rd and Queen St about 9.30am on August 9, 2019 after being pursued by multiple police cars.
He was in the ute with another teenager who gave evidence during an inquest in the Southport Coroner’s Court on Monday.
The teenager’s identity has been suppressed as he was a juvenile at the time of the crash.
“I was asking Logan where we could go and what we could do and he knew the Gold Coast better than me and he was saying some plan for us to get away,” he said.
“And then it was like more cops and more cops were following us … and we were going to drive until we couldn’t anymore,” he said.
The teenager said that meant they would drive until police boxed them in or they ran out of petrol.
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The incident was sparked when the group tried to break into a home in Maudsland.
The teen said they planned to break into a home to steal jewellery and expensive items to sell.
But there was a teenager in the home and they were spotted by neighbours who called Triple-0.
It sparked a pursuit of a Nissan Pulsar before it crashed on Kopps Rd, Helensvale.
The court was told Logan and the teen then stole a ute from Movie World and stopped to ask people for directions before heading onto the M1.
The teen said a car and motorbike initially pursued them.
“We didn’t discuss (the plan), it was without saying, so that we would get away,” he said.
“We knew that the cop bike wouldn’t follow us … it kept following us and following us and following us.”
He said he and Logan had been chased by police multiple times and often lost police after their driving became dangerous.
“I had been in that situation plenty of times before and I didn’t realise what had happened and how serious it was going to be, we weren’t thinking about it,” he said.
The teen said at times he thought police were trying to ram them.
“If we had to stop because there was a car in front of us, they would come straight up (to us), they would try and block us and not just stop like they would hit us,” he said.
The court was told Logan was unlikely to have been wearing a seatbelt during the crash.
It is estimated the car was travelling about 93km/hr when it rolled on Queen St, a 60km/hr zone, the court was told.
The inquest continues.
DRAMATIC POLICE CHASE BEFORE FATAL CRASH
VIDEO has been released showing police chasing a stolen car, which later crashed on the Gold Coast killing the driver.
Police ignored senior officers’ questions about whether they were in pursuit, their speed or location, a court has been told.
Logan Dreier, 18, died when the ute flipped multiple times on the corner of Southport-Nerang Rd and Queen St about 9.30am on August 9, 2019 after being pursued by multiple police cars.
In a shocking first day of a five-day inquest into the police handling of the incident involving a chase down the M1 and through Ashmore and Southport, the Southport Coroner’s Court was told:
- Senior officers did not have control of the situation;
- The pursuit should have been terminated much earlier;
- Officers did not respond to calls about whether they were in pursuit, their location or speed;
- Officers had begun a practice when following cars of maintaining “radio silence” to circumvent police pursuit policy;
- Three officers were recommended to undergo disciplinary proceedings following the pursuit;
- Multiple vehicles were in pursuit despite policy for just two vehicles to take part in a pursuit;
- An officer investigating said a decision to terminate should have been made when the stolen ute first drove on the wrong side of the road - minutes before the crash;
- There is a disconnect between the police policy and how Gold Coast police behave in pursuit situations;
- The lead police vehicle was a motorbike despite police policy saying the lead vehicle should be a four-wheel vehicle;
- Senior officers should have ordered the pursuit be abandoned when officers were not providing them with information;
- The Beenleigh communications centre, who were overseeing the pursuit, had been moved temporarily to Brisbane while mould in the Beenleigh office was addressed
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Logan first came into contact with police when a Triple-0 call came in about 9am when a Maudsland home was broken into.
Police pursed a Nissan Pulsar until it crashed in bush land and the occupants fled on foot.
Logan and another teen were soon spotted at Movie World where they stole a ute and crashed through the park’s security boom gate before heading on to the M1 and travelling south at high speed, at times about 140km/hr.
A compilation of body worn camera footage, police radio calls and CCTV footage showed what happened in the lead up to the pursuit.
After leaving the M1 the pursuit went through a number of suburbs including Ashmore and Southport.
The regional duty officer can be heard asking multiple times for information about if vehicles were in pursuit and for their location, speed and traffic flows.
The questions were often left unanswered.
The footage showed Logan trying to negotiate the corner from Southport-Nerang Rd and Queens St and the ute flipping multiple times.
He was flung from the vehicle and later died.
The footage showed that moments before the crash a senior officer was asking if any vehicles were in pursuit.
No one replied.
Two police motorbikes and a van were on the scene seconds after the crash.
Footage showed them in pursuit.
Counsel assisting the coroner Rhiannon Helsen read from a report by Queensland Police Ethical Standards Command Detective Senior Sergeant Cameron Herpich saying there had become consensus of a common practice of using radio silence and not using the word “pursuit” over the radio as justification to follow a stolen vehicle for a long time.
She asked Det Sen Sgt Herpich if he thought there was a deliberate attempt to circumnavigate the pursuit policy.
He replied: “I know there a number of cases where the RDO (regional duty officer) has asked for situational awareness and it wasn’t coming back.
“I don’t know whether that was deliberate per say or there were some technical issues.”
Sen Sgt Herpich told the court because they were getting no information, senior officers should have made a decision to terminate the pursuit.
The footage showed multiple police cars and motorbikes were in pursuit of the stolen ute.
Det Sen Sgt Herpich said under safe driving practices in the police operational procedures manual just two vehicles should have been in pursuit.
“There seems to be vehicle after vehicle pursing the vehicle,” he said.
Det Sen Sgt Herpich said he recommended in his report that Senior Sergeant Brayden Murphy, the lead motorbike in pursuit of Logan, Inspector Raymond Vine, the regional duty officer and Sergeant David Martin, the communications co-ordinator, undergo disciplinary proceedings.
“They were in command and they better than anyone else should know the policy and should have been able to make command decisions because people follow their lead,” Det Sen Sgt Herpich said.
“Each one of them failed in relation, in my view, to properly fulfil their duties.”
Det Sen Sgt Herpich said he was aware that some officers had made complaints about quality of radio transmissions that day
The court was told Sen Sgt Murphy, who was on the lead motorbike, did not have body worn camera or a camera on his police trail bike.
Insp Vine and Sgt Martin were disciplined through a professional development strategy.
Sen Sgt Murphy underwent a disciplinary hearing.
The inquest continues with 27 witnesses expected to be called.
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