Eddie Jones held Zoom job interview with Japan days before Wallabies’ World Cup campaign

Lyon: Wallabies boss Eddie Jones was secretly interviewed by Japanese rugby officials to take over as the country’s head coach just days before Australia’s Rugby World Cup campaign started in France.

The Wallabies coach is considering walking away from Australian rugby with four years remaining on his current deal after formal discussions about returning to Japan, the country he coached from 2012 to 2015.

In a development that could spark major ramifications for Rugby Australia amid the Wallabies’ faltering campaign in France, the Herald and The Age can reveal that Jones has been actively involved in the process underway to find a successor to incumbent Japan coach Jamie Joseph.

Sources with knowledge of negotiations who are unable to be identified due to the sensitive nature of the discussions said Jones has applied for the head coaching role with the Brave Blossoms, and took part in an online Zoom interview with JRFU officials on August 25. It was the first formal interview of the process.

Jones was at that time in Paris with the Wallabies, two days out from a World Cup warm-up match against France. The Wallabies lost that fixture 41-17 to slump to a 0-5 record since Jones returned to the helm.

The Herald and The Age put a list of questions to Jones this week through a Rugby Australia spokesperson. The Wallabies coach declined to comment, reiterating his position from last week that there was no truth to similar reports from Japan media and that his focus was on this weekend’s must-win match against Wales.

Wallabies coach Eddie Jones has declined to respond to a series of questions about the situation.Credit: Getty

Rugby Australia chief executive Phil Waugh said in a statement: “I take people at their word and Eddie’s said there’s nothing in it. So, as far as I’m concerned, that’s the end of the story and everyone’s focus is on this weekend’s crucial game against Wales.”

Asked whether Jones had been interviewed, a Japan Rugby Football Union spokesperson said a selection process was “under way”.

“We have a policy that we won’t disclose any information about any candidates until we announce the new head coach, so unfortunately there is no comment from our president at the moment,” the spokesperson said. “The new head coach has not been decided yet.”

Just eight months have passed since Rugby Australia sacked Dave Rennie as Wallabies coach and announced the Kiwi would be replaced by Jones following the 63-year-old’s own dismissal as England boss late last year.

Jones is one of the last three candidates for the job after a highly confidential process which, according to the JRFU website, is being run by global executive search firm Odgers Berndtson and led by Troy de Haas, head of the company’s Asia-Pacific sport and entertainment practice.

The JRFU has insisted on running an independent process to appoint a world-class coach. Applications closed on August 18.

Jones last week denied being in the mix for the Japanese vacancy, dismissing a report from Japanese media that named him as a possible candidate as “bullshit and gossip”. South African coach Frans Ludeke was also mentioned in the report as a potential option.

Rugby Australia chair Hamish McLennan was influential in the decision to bring Jones back to Australia but will be faced with a huge problem if the Wallabies coach walks away.

Eddie Jones’ tenure with England came to an end in December.Credit: Getty

When McLennan was asked whether he knew that Jones had interviewed with Japan, he said he had not spoken to Wallabies coach about the matter.

The Herald and The Age can also reveal Jones was open to the idea of attending a second interview, in person, with Japanese officials who have travelled to France for the World Cup.

Jones has a close relationship with JRFU president Masato Tsuchida. However, the JRFU may be inclined to hire a different coach to the one who helped Japan beat South Africa in a famous victory at the 2015 World Cup.

“A competitive remuneration package will be offered,” reads the candidate briefing document, obtained by the Herald and The Age. “The primary purpose of this role is to ensure that the Brave Blossoms are successful on the international stage ... over the next four-year term.”

Jones previously coached Japan between 2012 and 2015.Credit: Getty

The JRFU, which has ambitions to host and win a Rugby World Cup within the next 16 years, has shortlisted a number of candidates with a strong connection and understanding of Japanese rugby.

Jones is under pressure to deliver with the Wallabies after the team’s surprise defeat to Fiji – Australia’s first in 69 years.

Earlier this year, Jones caused a stir by suggesting on a podcast that he would leave as Wallabies coach whether the team won this year’s World Cup or not. He then clarified his position but his involvement with the Japanese selection process suggests Jones had been contemplating a premature exit from Australian rugby.

Jones was sacked in 2005 by the Australian Rugby Union after a four-year stint as Wallabies coach.

On Friday, Jones refused to commit to the Wallabies beyond the World Cup, despite Rugby Australia luring him back to Australia on a five-year deal that runs until the 2027 World Cup on home soil.

“Well, I want to coach as best as I can on Sunday. That’s all I can say. That’s the only job I’ve got at the moment,” Jones said.

Wallabies assistant coach Jason Ryles said he would be surprised if Jones walked away from the role.

“I see his vision beyond the World Cup and it’s one of those things where he hasn’t said anything to us obviously,” Ryles said. “Basically, watch this space. There is a big job ahead for the next four years with the Wallabies, which he’s started already. He’s got some pretty good foundations down.

“To walk away from that would be a bit of a surprise because there is a lot of green shoots for the future. I’m not too sure what he’ll do to be honest with you. It’s good to have options by the sounds of it.”

The Wallabies play Wales in Lyon on Sunday night (Monday 5am AEST).

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