‘See you dead’ email seen by NSW cops before Qld shootings

NSW Police saw deadly threats from one of the men who went on to kill two Queensland officers at least five hours before the shootings, a coroner has heard.

State Coroner Terry Ryan, who is investigating the fatal shooting of six people at a rural Queensland property on December 12, 2022, on Monday heard evidence for the first time from NSW Police officers.

Ryan heard Gareth Train, 47, emailed his brother Nathaniel, 46, claiming NSW Police wanted to “see you dead” and told others he would “greet them as they deserve” if officers arrived at his doorstep.

NSW Police was forwarded the emails the day they were sent, on December 11, 2022 which were read and reviewed by an officer before 11am the next day.

On the afternoon of December 12, Queensland constables Matthew Arnold, 26, and Rachel McCrow, 29, were shot dead by the Trains at Wieambilla, west of Brisbane, while attempting to locate Nathaniel.

NSW Police Sergeant Simon Thorpe testified in Brisbane Coroners Court on Monday he spoke to a close associate of Nathaniel at a regional NSW police station on November 23, 2022, about the procedure for reporting him missing.

Thorpe said he entered details about Gareth’s emails into the police’s information system on the morning of December 12 but did not realise they contained references to a confrontation with police in coming days.

“They will attempt to see you dead by Saturnalia,” Gareth told his brother in the email, referring to the ancient Roman festival held on December 17, which is linked to both celebration and symbols of human sacrifices.

The close associate forwarded to Thorpe multiple emails sent by Gareth between December 10 and 11.

The emails contained numerous insults directed toward police, accusing them of being corrupt since 1788, and obscene slurs towards people Gareth thought responsible for the attempt to locate his brother.

Thorpe said he entered into the police files that the emails, which included references to the Australian spy agency ASIO, suggested Gareth had “symptoms of delusional paranoia”.

Ryan was told Thorpe previously entered in case files in late November 2022 that Nathaniel was “becoming paranoid and Godlike” in terms of being outspoken about his religious beliefs and his brother Gareth had a “dislike of police and authority figures”.

Ryan heard Thorpe was shown a letter suggesting Nathaniel might in December 2022 attend the remote Wieambilla property owned by his brother and his sibling’s 45-year-old wife Stacey.

The close associate cannot be identified because of a court order.

Ryan heard Thorpe discovered Nathaniel had an outstanding arrest warrant in Queensland for illegally crossing the border during COVID-19 lockdowns and for firearms offences.

The Train property, where several police and a neighbour were shot dead.Credit: A Current Affair

Thorpe said he did not tell the close associate about the criminal charges as he was required to protect Nathaniel’s privacy.

Ryan heard Thorpe had attempted to contact Gareth by phone and left a message.

“My main concern was that ... Queensland police would likely be met with hostility and he would be unco-operative,” Thorpe said.

Gareth Train did not return Thorpe’s phone message but stated in emails he had heard it.

Thorpe was not involved in the decision to send four Queensland constables to the Wieambilla property.

The Trains went on to also kill their neighbour Alan Dare, 58, that afternoon.

All three Trains were shot dead hours later by specialist officers after they refused to surrender and opened fire on a police armoured vehicle.

AAP