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US presidential debate 2024 live updates: Donald Trump v Joe Biden

US President Joe Biden has been heavily criticised for his poor performance and for freezing in the first debate against Donald Trump, who attacked him on numerous fronts and said he would accept the election result. Follow the updates.

Trump vs Biden 2024: Wild moments from their first election debate

US President Joe Biden and former president Donald Trump went head-to-head in a debate that could change the course of their extraordinary election rematch.

Mass panic has engulfed the Democratic Party after Biden’s shaky debate performance against Trump, with senior figures contemplating whether the US President can be dumped as their candidate before the extraordinary rematch he was already on track to lose.

The oldest president in history struggled with a hoarse voice and repeatedly stumbled over his answers during the 90-minute clash with the former president, prompting his allies to question whether he should continue seeking a second term at the age of 81.

Mr Biden’s struggles overshadowed his predecessor’s problems on the debate stage, including Mr Trump’s false assertions about his role in inciting the January 6 riot at the US Capitol and his refusal to fully commit to accepting the results of November’s election.

In the aftermath of the long-awaited head-to-head clash, Democrats described Mr Biden as incoherent and disoriented, with one telling host broadcaster CNN: “We are f***ed.”

But in a brief speech to supporters, the President said: “Let’s keep going. See you at the next one.”

A CNN snap poll found 67 per cent of voters thought Mr Trump won the contest.

Our coverage today is anchored by Tom Minear and Andrew Koubaridis with commentary from James Morrow and Annelise Nielsen. Victoria Cooper, who is with the US Studies Centre, will be providing her analysis. Katia Loisel is our body language expert. 

See how it unfolded in the stream below for a recap and follow our updates below.

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'CAREER-ENDING DEBATE' FOR BIDEN


This was a career-ending debate for Biden. This wasn’t a competition; it was a wipeout.

From the onset, Biden appeared frail, confused and dazed like a deer in the headlights, his normally open direct posture and eye contact replaced with a vulnerability we had not seen.

In contrast, Trump who is a big man, appeared visibly taller during Biden’s opening statement, pulling his shoulders back, lifting his chin and bouncing on his toes as if to say, “I've got this.”

Despite a shaky start marked by a lack of illustrators and gestures, and general tension his body stiff and upright, Trump regained his composure, his open palm gesturing, his heart window open, conveying sincerity and honesty essentially saying, “You can trust me, I’m here to serve.” As the debate wore on and Biden’s confidence plummeted, Trump’s increased. His gestures became bigger his stance more relaxed as he leaned into the lectern in order to connect with the audience.

Trump’s contempt for Biden was palatable, using several tactics to mock and undermine him, adopting a contempt or classic dominance, an asymmetrical smile in which one side of the lip raises in a smile with the other downturned or staying put and is a non-verbal threat signalling contempt and dominance. The dominant smile has also been shown to increase the heart rate in the receiver, and this a non-verbal threat often coupled with raised eyebrows as if to say, “Who is this guy?” adds to a sense of smugness that won’t necessarily help Trump’s likeability.

While Biden also displayed an asymmetric smile, it is important to note his baseline and general asymmetry due to brain surgery. However, this appeared more marked during this debate.

In contrast, Biden’s ducked head, turtled neck, downcast eyes, and arms locked into position on the lectern indicated uncertainty and vulnerability. Whilst Biden has previously adopted this position in the past, looking down at his notes in an attempt to gather his thoughts and reset, this was different.

It was clear that Biden was stuck in the freeze response during most of the debate.

As expected in a televised debate where the stakes are high both candidates used adaptors to self-soothe and regulate during the debate, keeping one or both hands on the lectern as crutch and swaying from side to side to self-soothe and regulate. Swaying is an adaptor or self-soothing mechanism that reduces nervous energy. It is often used in response to the release of adrenaline during periods of high stress or emotional arousal.

This Presidential Debate has several notable differences that dramatically influenced the debate, nonverbal leakage, and indicators we saw. Unlike previous debates, the candidates’ microphones will be turned off when they are not speaking, making it difficult for them to interrupt effectively

FINANCE EXPERTS REVEAL DEBATE IMPACT ON MARKET

Australian finance experts have revealed how the first US leaders debate has impacted the stock market and broader economy – and what the early signs indicate.

Barrenjoey chief interest rate strategist Andrew Lilley said the the prediction markes shows the probability of Trump winning the US election in November had risen from about 55 per cent at the start of the debate to 60 per cent.

"There’s a big debate on whether that would be good news or bad news for equity markets, but I can tell you that for bond markets, the consensus is clear. If Trump were to win the election, interest rates would likely increase," he said.

"There is some movement (in bond market) but I’ll just say it's relatively thin trading conditions and we will find out the real reaction tomorrow. But yeah, the movement so far has been higher yields in response to higher Trump probability."



City Index senior market analyst Matt Simpson described the debate as like watching: "Statler and Waldorf argue a bingo ticket".

"Wall Street indices have crept higher over the past hour, which could be taken as a sign that Trump made the better case – as we all know he is Wall Street friendly," he said.

"But this debate is unlikely to sway hardened Trump or Biden supporters, and few in between for that matter. Trump had the markets in the palm of his hands during his presidency. But that potency seems to have passed for now."

Meanwhile, Karl Schamotta, chief market strategist for Corpay, in Toronto, said Bid's "disastrous performance" has triggered "a sharp rise in odd on a Trump victory".

"This is translating into a tumble in trade-sensitive currencies – the Mexican peso, Canadian dollar, and even the euro are dropping against the greenback, and Chinese equity markets are coming down hard as investors hedge against a more isolationist turn in the United States after the November election."

– Hayley Goddard

'I WILL NEVER TURN MY BACK'

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Californian Governor Gavin Newsom has reaffirmed his support of Biden, expressing confidence in the 81-year-old's ability to lead the country. When asked about whether the Democrats would be open to replacing Biden he said: “I will never turn my back on President Biden. Never turn my back on President Biden, I don’t know a Democrat in my party that would do so.“And especially after tonight, we have his back, we run not the 90 yard dash. We’re all in, we’re going to double down in the next few months. We’re gonna win this election."Asked by CNN if he has any concerns about Biden being fit to lead the country, Newsom said “none.”

POLL: MAJORITY OF VIEWERS SAY TRUMP WON

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Nearly 70 per cent of Americans who watched the debate believed Trump delivered a stronger performance, compared to Biden ( 33 per cent).

The CNN poll of 565 registered voters found the same group anticipated Trump would outperform Biden by a narrower margin, with 55 per cent predicting Trump's better performance versus 45 per cent for Biden.

The results are the complete opposite to 2020 when Biden was seen as the stronger candidate. But despite the debate outcome, viewers remain skeptical about leadership capabilities with 57 per cent expressing low confidence in Biden's ability to lead the country, while 44 per cent feel the same about Trump.

Conducted via text message, the CNN poll notes that its findings solely represent the views of debate watchers.

'TRUMP IS A LIAR': BIDEN DECLARES

Biden has posted a video to X, formerly Twitter, captioned: "Donald Trump is a liar. We're going to beat him again".

– Hayley Goddard

HOW THE WORLD REACTED TO SHAKY DEBATE

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As the dust begins to settle from the presidential debate, this is how international media have reacted.




KAMALA HARRIS DEFENDS BIDEN'S PERFORMANCE


Vice President Kamala Harris defended Biden's performance and said she wouldn't dwell on the last that "90 minutes" and instead focused on the last three and a half years of his presidency.

"I'm not going to spend all night with you talking about the last 90 minutes when I've been watching the last three and a half years," the Vice President said.

She was asked about Biden's debate and if she was concerned.

"It was a slow start. That's obvious. To everyone. I'm not going to debate that point. I'm talking about the choice in November. I'm talking about one of the most important elections in our collective lifetime.

“What we saw tonight is the President making a very clear contrast with Donald Trump on all of the issues that matter to the American people. Yes, there was a slow start, but it was a strong finish,” said Harris.

“Joe Biden is extraordinarily strong on substance and policy and performance,” she said.




Asked directly about concern from voters and their own party about Biden's age, Harris said: "Ultimately, this election and who is the president of the United States has to be about substance. And the contrast is clear. Look at what happened during the course of the debate. Donald Trump lied over and over and over again, as he is want to do," she said.

"He (Trump) would not disavow what happened on January 6. He would not give a clear answer on whether he would stand by the election results this November, he went back and forth about where he stands on one of the most critical issues of freedom in America, which is the right of women to make decisions about their own body.

"He has been completely ambiguous and all over the place about where he stands on that issue, despite the fact that he hand-selected three members of the United States supreme court with the intention that they would undo the protections of Roe v Wade."

FIRST DEBATE 'CATASTROPHIC': POLITICAL COMMENTATORS

Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. slammed both President Joe Biden and President Donald Trump, during his televised “alternate debate” before a live studio audience.

Kennedy branded his own discussion a “debate rebuttal” as he chastised both leaders.

“This is the reason that they need me on stage. Because I would confront them with what they did,” Kennedy said on inflation under both leaders.

Elon Musk tweeted on X the Kennedy alternate debate was “worth watching”.

Political commentators in the US were equally critical of both candidates saying they revealed little new on the major issues affecting America, namely economy, immigration and foreign policy. Instead they focused on criticising each other's past record or reiterated positions touted previously.

"Catastrophic" was how Sarah Isgur, American ABC political commentator, summed it up.




Trump’s daughter-in-law, Lara Trump, former television producer and wife of Trump’s third child Eric, said the debate showed Biden as a weak leader and she was “embarrassed and sad for him (Biden)”.

She said the debate highlighted who Americans had to vote for – “it is Donald J. Trump”.

Conservative commentator Scott Jennings said Biden’s “candidacy has fallen” on the basis of his debate highlighting his mental acuity.

“I’m worried about the president. We should pray for the president,” Jennings, a former aide to President George W. Bush, said.

“I think his advisers, I think the White House, and I think his family have a lot of explaining to do to their party and to the American people.”

– Charles Miranda

BACKLASH OVER CNN'S FACT CHECKING

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Several journalists and political commentators have slammed the decision by CNN hosts Dana Bash and Jake Tapper to go without fact-checking.

Instead, they waited until after the debate had finished to fact check what both candidates claimed throughout the night.


FORMER TRUMP AIDE 'NOT CONFIDENT' IN BIDEN

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The former aide to Trump warns that Biden's performance at the debate doesn't give her confidence that he can win.

“I think Joe Biden lost in the first three minutes,” Alyssa Farah Griffin told CNN after the debate.

She reiterated that she thinks Trump is a “threat to democracy,” adding: “I think he is a threat to the America as we know it.”

Referring to Biden she said: “I am not confident that that is the man to take him on."

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