In today’s episode we’re chatting with the host of ‘Love it or list it’ and dad of three girls, Andrew Winter. This chat is also a good lesson in making sure your shot looks nice before doing a zoom call with a property developer (Mel is still stinging from his barb about her ugly window…LISTING IT, STAT). We’re also chatting with our regular travel guru Evie Farrell who talks about the social media traps we need to be aware of while travelling. And Mel asks, OMFG why don’t kids listen?!