The recordings, which were captured by a police bugging device hidden under a table in the visitor’s area of Lithgow Jail in 2013, also captured the man allegedly telling his inmate friend he had “revenge fantasies” in jail where he compiled a list of people he wanted to kill.

The second of two recordings took place the day after he had shot a middle-aged female associate of feared crime boss Bassam Hamzy.

The criminal was recorded saying he wrote letters to Hamzy to arrange a one-on-one fight while both were in jail and told the crime boss: “I’m gonna shoot your f**king cousins.”

The Sunday Telegraph has obtained the recordings that also revealed the criminal said he loved his time in Goulburn’s Supermax Jail before the inmate warned him: “You can’t gamble forever, bro.”

Just months earlier, the criminal had been one of four people found not guilty of all charges relating to six heists on armoured vans in 2009 where only about $500,000 of the $6 million in stolen cash was ever recovered.

The robbers — who were armed with pistols and an AK-47 machine gun while wearing bullet proof vests stolen from the police — targeted Chubb and Armaguard vans around Sydney before making their getaway in sports cars hijacked from the city’s most exclusive suburbs.

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The robberies included hits on trucks at North Sydney, Potts Point, Epping, Cranbrook High School and a raid where armed men infiltrated the Chubb base at Lane Cove and smashed a truck holding about $2 million through the front gate.

What happened to the stolen cash had remained a mystery until the two recordings, made on February 24 and March 10, 2013, were tendered to the District Court this week.

The inmate the criminal had come to visit in jail is a member of one of Sydney’s most feared Middle Eastern crime families. Neither can legally be named.

Both men were unaware the police had planted a recording device under the table they were sitting at with the inmate’s brother, who joked: “This will be uggedbay (bugged), I reckon.”

During the jail visits, the criminal allegedly told the inmate he had amassed $1.2 million before he was arrested over the 2009 armed robberies.

By 2013, the criminal complained he was short of cash thanks to the cost of his trial plus lavish spending on guns, cars and toys.

He also told the inmate he invested $600,000 with Asian crime figures who owned a shop near his home.

They were paying him about $8000 a month in interest, but he griped that they were delaying giving him the money back, which he was supposed to be able to call in with six weeks notice.

“They gotta pay an extra hundred grand for making me wait so long,” he told his friend.

When he asked for his money back “they said ‘Oh, sorry, blah blah (it’s going to be) six to eight months,” he explained to his friend.

“They can’t run away or nothing you know. I’ve known them for years.”

He spent $22,000 on the police scanner, dropped $40,000 on a Ford Territory and lent $100,000 to one of his co-accused in the robbery trial.

A Ford XR6 cost him $20,000 while lawyers for him and his brother set him back more than $200,000.

The man also took a Mercedes C63 as payment from a man who owed him up to $100,000.

“I had $1.2 million when I went to jail and I’m coming out now with f**king four hundred, three hundred thousand,” he told his friend the inmate, whose identity is also suppressed.

At another point, he said: “I was a millionaire when I was out. You know if I didn’t come to jail I would’ve had $5 million right now.”

HOW DID WE GET HERE?

AFTER beating the armed robbery charges in late 2012, the man visited his inmate friend, a member of a feared Middle Eastern family, at Lithgow Jail on February 24 and March 10, 2013.

Unaware that police had planted a listening device under the table, police allege he confessed to lying during his evidence during the marathon five month trial to beat the charges.

Police have now charged the criminal with perjury.

If he is convicted, it will open the possibility that he will be ordered to stand trial again on the armed robbery charges.

The issue will only be decided after the judge alone trial.

In arguing to have the perjury charges thrown out, the court heard the man’s high profile lawyer Simon Joyner had written to the Director of Public Prosecutions and to clarify if the prosecuting office is “seeking to relitigate my client for the armed robbery offences.”

The man’s barrister, Mark Austin, told the court the DPP has so far left the matter “as an open question”.

Crown Prosecutor Giles Tabuteau told the court the recordings revealed the man’s evidence was made up.

Sitting in the dock of the District Court this week, it was a world away from the elation he felt when he was acquitted.

He told his friend at the first Lithgow meeting: “Yeah, the best feeling ever. The best.”

The criminal was convinced he would be found guilty, explaining: “I thought I was gone bro.”

He revealed it was notorious triple murderer Michael Kanaan who helped him concoct the lies he allegedly gave in evidence during the 2012 trial.

“Me and Mick Kanaan made this big story together ...” he said.

WHO IS THE CRIMINAL

HE IS an apex predator among Sydney’s underworld who “loved” the time he spent in Goulburn’s Supermax Prison. And he thinks bikies are money hungry wimps.

His extreme high risk classification means he spends 23 hours a day in isolation and is brought to court by armed guards.

At the February 24 Lithgow meeting, the criminal told his friend: “I didn’t want to get out of Supermax”.

“I told the other boys, as soon as they say you’re coming out of Supermax, I’ll burn my cell and tell them to leave me there,” he said.

It wasn’t long before he was back given his busy schedule around the time of the recordings.

On March 9, 2013, he shot Bassam Hamzy’s associate through the door of her home. On March 17 he had a scuffle with Hamzy inside the walls of Supermax. Prosecutors also allege he was involved in an armed robbery around the time that he is about to stand trial over.

His name has been suppressed because of the number of court cases he is facing.

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In the second recording he asked his friend “Have you heard that Fifty Cent album, ‘Get Rich or Die Trying?”.

“That’s what I live my life by ... I love him man, I love him,” the criminal said.

It would sound tragic if he wasn’t one of the country’s most dangerous men.

When it comes to firing a warning shot, he said he prefers to shoot certain enemies in the stomach rather than the knee.

“(The) stomach (is) really scary,” he told the inmate. “If ... he dies, he dies. Good on ‘em, bye ... but it’s up to him if he wants to live or die.”

He told his friend he was “thinking about knocking the crown prosecutor and police” on one of his cases.

At another point he said he wasn’t worried about shooting police officers.

“If you’re gonna knock someone ... shoot at the coppers too because you know you’re doing life for that,” he said. “Spray the coppers. Have a gun, always have a big one for the coppers. You know (an) SKS or a pumpie.”

When it came to his peers in the underworld, he said: “All your friends become your enemies in the long run.”

THE REVENGE LIST

WHEN a criminal cools their heels behind bars they have time to think. For this criminal, he thought about who he wanted to kill and got to work on a list.

He told his friend about it during the second Lithgow meeting.

“Every little thing that’s burnt me I’m getting revenge for,” he told his friend.

“Every single thing that’s burnt me.

“I’ve got a list of people. I’m gonna get them.”

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He had also sorted his enemies into categories.

“Some people’s down the bottom of the list, some people’s at the top,” he said.

“Some people it’s only a kneecapping, some people it’s only stomach some peoples it’s dead.”

The inmate replied: “I’m reading your psychology at the moment, bro. It’s very bad.”

The criminal continued that he was “f**king burning” while being held in prison.

“I read this thing ... that in jail you get revenge fantasies,” the criminal said.

“I used to sit there all the time. Burning, burning, burning. When I got out it went down a bit less you know…”

“Sit in jail thinking ‘this c**t, I should have got him when I was out’.”

Asked what the motivation behind his revenge list, the man denied it was about pride and said it was “just to f**k them, make them feel some pain”.

During the February visit, he said: “All I’m worried about is getting money and then getting my revenge on them c**ts and that’s it.”

MR X

AT THE top of the revenge list was a man known as Mr X.

Mr X was a drug dealer who rolled over to become the star prosecution witness in the armed robbery trial and pointed the finger at the criminal and his three co-accused.

In exchange, he received a 60 per cent discount on his jail sentence after being caught with drugs and guns.

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When the four men were acquitted of the robbery charges, Mr X had a reason to look over his shoulder.

“Everything was going mad for me,” the criminal told his friend.

“I had heaps of money, I had a car, I had moved into that flat, I had a new girlfriend.

“Then one dog’s word — he is going to f**king pay.”

The criminal’s anger was compounded because his brother was jailed for threatening Mr X in an attempt to have him withdraw his evidence.

He told his friend at the first Lithgow meeting: “I was even going to hit (Mr X’s) mum.”

The inmate friend replied: “F**k me dead bro. Take it easy bro ... what are you going to do it for, pride and that?”.

The criminal responded: “Nah, just to make him feel the same pain (I did) when I was in jail stressing out ... sending messages begging this bloke (saying) ‘please’.

“If I didn’t go to jail my brother wouldn’t have got locked up.

“Trust me, he needs to pay this c**t.”

The inmate then suggested: “Get him on his release date, the piece of shit.”

“The plan is to, there’s all these plans, I could tell ya about them but they’re not known until they happen,” the criminal replied.

Five years later, Mr X is still in one piece.

He was in court on Wednesday to give evidence in the perjury trial — just metres away from the criminal.

GENTLEMAN HAMZY

A GENTLEMAN. That’s how the criminal described feared Brothers’ For Life gang founder Bassam Hamzy during the second Lithgow visit.

That didn’t stop him shooting a female associate of the convicted murderer through the door of her home just one day before the jail visit.

The declaration of war was a matter of principle and family honour, he told his mate.

Hamzy’s cousin, Bilal, stood over the criminal’s mother for $5000.

This was after the criminal contacted Bassam about collecting a $20,000 for him while they were both in prison.

In retaliation, the criminal set out to shoot Bilal but ended up shooting the female associate through the door on March 9, 2013.

Reflecting on the shooting, the criminal told his mate he fired “the whole 30 clip plus one” and that he may have kept hitting her because “she dropped”.

“F**k with my mum ... lucky I didn’t do worse,” he said at the visit.

With Bilal not at the scene, the criminal said he shot the woman, figuring he “might as well get some result than nothing”.

“They’re lucky I didn’t knock ...,” the criminal said.

“Any guy that was there ... say if there were ten boys there, we were knocking every single one of them.”

Now the issue was how the Hamzy would retaliate.

The inmate warned “the first few weeks are crucial” and that “they’ll hit back in these first two weeks to show face”.

“You’ve got to break their spirits,” the inmate said.

Even though the criminal thought Bassam Hamzy was a “gentleman”, he told his mate he had to save face in the criminal milieu by challenging the crime boss to a one on one fight.

“People would be laughing behind my back,” he said in the second recording.

“Look at him, they stood over him for five grand and he’s still talking to Bass. That’s what they’ll say.”

He said he wrote Hamzy a letter that said: “I’m gonna shoot your cousin.”

The criminal said Hamzy replied: “I’m not backing (Bilal) but I can’t let no one shoot my cousin. So if you’re gonna shoot him then we’ll have a go.”

When he was getting out of jail, the criminal said “I thought I better write (Hamzy) a letter so he knows that it’s still not sweet”.

“(Hamzy) goes ‘Yeah, no worries brother. We’ll have a go. We’ll go two out, we’ll punch on in the room,” the criminal said.

“He’s a gentleman. I can say nothing bad about him myself.”

The pair crossed paths at Supermax Jail on March 17, 2013, where they grappled before being pulled apart.

Hamzy has his visitation rights taken away as punishment.

The criminal was sentenced to a maximum 20 years jail for the shooting and has appealed.

BREAKOUT PLANS

THE decision was made. The criminal would ram a prison van with a stolen truck and break the inmate out of jail.

But there was still one aspect of the plan, which was formulated during the two Lithgow Jail meetings, that the pair disagreed on: what would be the best side of the prison truck to ram.

The inmate said the attack should be from the side.

“Yeah, put them into a barrier,” the inmate said.

The criminal disagreed.

“F**k, you’ll need a big truck for that man, ‘cause that’s when they might keep driving like that,” the criminal said.

The criminal said it had to be from the front. His mate disagreed.

“But they’ll probably f**king just ram and keep going,” the inmate said.

The criminal responded: “No, I don’t think so. I think they’ll shit themselves man. The way it looks, it’s easy. The way you. explained it, is a lot harder.”

One point the pair agreed on was to hit the truck in Silverwater.

“You can f**king do it on you know where they turn, just before Silverwater Jail,” the inmate said.

“You know where they turn right into Holker St ... There’s a driveway there. Bang. And we’ll get in behind it.”

Earlier the criminal had joked to the inmate: “Once you’re in the car, just drop me down the street ... youse can deal with the shootout. Just leave me out of it. I don’t want no money. Nothing.”

A NIGHT OUT AT MISTY’S

IT WAS a long held ambition of the inmate: “I’m going to marry a dirty whore.”

He felt so strongly about the claim that it was only a few seconds before he repeated it to the criminal during the March meeting at Lithgow Jail.

“Ah I’ve got no shame. I’ve always said I’m gonna marry a prostitute.”

The criminal processed this information before posing a problem that could arise from the scenario.

“Yeah but you don’t let people know that,” the criminal said.

“Because then one day ... say we’re sitting down together, you’re gonna be talking to your wife, I’m going to look at her thinking she’s w**ked c**ks for money.

“I don’t want to look at your wife like that.”

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The inmate didn’t see a problem with the scenario.

“Yes bro, look at my wife like that — I’d be proud,” the inmate said.

“I’d be very proud bro. She’s a good girl. Put a scarf on her.”

The inmate can likely cross famed Surry Hills brothel Misty’s off the list of places he might find his future bride.

This was after the inmate carved a path of destruction through the Riley St bordello following an incident where his brother overdosed on the drug GBH that was given to him by a prostitute.

“(My brother’s) eyes were rolling back,” the inmate said.

“My brother drank a bottle of water, thinking it was bottled water and it was GBH.

“Bro, he was almost dying.”

The inmate said he went after the girl.

“I was trying to choke her and the nurse would come, and I said ‘f**k this,” the inmate said. “I went and broke up the whole of Misty’s bro. Smashed everyone. Started knocking out girls.”

When the criminal said “you’re off your head, mate”, the inmate replied: “But that was a bad state bro.

“I don’t feel like a man, f**king, bashing girls but, bro my brother could’ve died, bro.

“Little junkie. I called him a G junkie.”