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Qld election 2024: Live updates from second leaders debate as Labor’s Steven Miles and LNP’s David Crisafulli meet again | Party leaders quizzed on abortion, debt and cost-of-living relief

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Your say: Who won the debate?

Miles makes pitch for re-election

By Cameron Atfield

And the last word goes to Premier Steven Miles, who makes his pitch for re-election.

“Elections are about trust and the future,” he says.

“Queenslanders know me and they know my record. They know what I will do if I am elected in on October 26 – $1000 energy rebates, 50¢ fares, 20 per cent off rego, $200 Fair Play vouchers, more bulk billing GPs, cheaper fuel, cheaper energy. With me, what you see is what you get.

Premier Steven Miles has asked Queensland voters to give Labor four more years in power.

Premier Steven Miles has asked Queensland voters to give Labor four more years in power.Credit: AAPIMAGE

“The Opposition Leader will not answer Queenslanders’ questions and you can’t trust someone who won’t be honest with you, whether that is on costings, on nuclear power, on the location of pumped hydro dams or water dams here in the south-east.

“Whether it’s stadiums or coal royalties or women’s rights. With me, you get clear and honest answers. With him, you get rehearsed slogans.

“You might not agree with my position on everything, but you will always know where I stand and what I stand for. The LNP cannot be honest with Queenslanders. I will always be.”

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The LNP’s final pitch

By Felicity Caldwell

After a “decade of decline” under Labor, LNP leader David Crisafulli says he has listened to Queenslanders.

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Delivering his final comments, Crisafulli spoke about crime and Queenslanders living in tents.

“While the government was criticising us, we were developing a plan,” he said.

“That is the plan for the fresh start that this state so desperately needs.”

The election campaign ends on October 26.

Last question to Crisafulli on LNP costings

By Cameron Atfield

Now for the final question for Opposition Leader David Crisafulli, and it comes from Premier Steven Miles, who asks about LNP costings.

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“Why won’t you tell Queenslanders why are you making them vote without that knowledge?” he asks.

Crisafulli responds: “We have a lower tax plan, and we have a Shadow Treasurer who understands about respect for your money, and that’s going to be a refreshing change.

“Queenslanders will know that when they pay their taxes, projects will be done on time and on budget, and that’s the sort of Queensland that we deserve.”

The leaders are asking more questions – but it’s nothing like Question Time

By Felicity Caldwell

LNP leader David Crisafulli is asking his last question of Premier Steven Miles and he’s taking full advantage of the fact they’re not operating under Queensland Parliament’s rules, which ban a lengthy preamble before asking the question.

He has made a lot of comments about victim numbers, ambulance ramping, youth crime and other issues before asking his question.

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“Is the reason you won’t accept responsibility for your record in government is because you are embarassed by it?” Crisafulli says.

But Miles says “not at all”.

He’s obviously decided to answer the question like it was a Dorothy Dixer, and he’s now talking about 50¢ fares, energy prices, school lunches and free kindy.

“You are trying to tell Queenslanders that things were better under the Campbell Newman government that you were a part of,” he said, again referencing Newman for anyone keeping track.

“You asked about my record and I am very proud of my record of those 10 years, but I’m especially proud of my record over these last 10 months.”

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Back to crime...

By Cameron Atfield

Now, Sky News’ Harry Clarke asks Opposition Leader David Crisafulli whether he believes government data that crime rates and ambulance ramping rates were decreasing.

Crisafulli says there was one metric in which he is most concerned.

“Victim numbers are at record levels,” he says.

”Queensland has more victims than New South Wales and Victoria despite the fact we have a smaller population. That is a fact, victim numbers are the number that I will be held accountable for.”

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Premier Steven Miles takes the opportunity to play moderator.

“But he’s asking, if you believe the police data? Do you believe the police data? Harry’s asking about the police data, answer the question,” he says to Crisafulli.

“I’ve set a target for fewer victims. You won’t commit to that nothing, because your heart’s not in it,” the Opposition Leader responds.

Moderator Marlina Whop takes the opportunity to ask Miles whether he’d commit to a lower victim number.

“We have a community safety plan that is reducing crime, Marlina,” he says.

“Now, one of the reasons the victim numbers have gone up is because we include domestic violence victims and all of those offenses, something that the LNP did not do.

“So the early year data that David compares to does not include domestic violence victims. In fact, they said they were counting the victims that count.”

How long would Crisafulli allow truth-telling inquiry to run?

By Cameron Atfield

Now a question from Brisbane Times′ own Matt Dennien – and it’s a question to Opposition Leader David Crisafulli about the Path to Treaty.

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“It was almost a year ago to the day that you said the LNP would no longer support the state’s path to treaty,” Dennien notes.

“Your 100-day plan doesn’t involve repealing that act. How long will you allow the truth telling inquiry to continue?”

Crisafulli doesn’t have a specific answer.

“We have committed to stopping that process and we will do it in a timely manner, but I didn’t set that as one of the 100-day reviews,” he says.

“But I want Queenslanders to know we are serious about delivering for people who particularly live in those remote communities.”

The hardest question for politicians: one with a yes or no answer

By Felicity Caldwell

Andrew Messenger from The Guardian says Brisbane is Australia’s second-most expensive city for housing.

He wants a yes and no answer from Steven Miles and David Crisafulli and says he’ll hold them to just a one-word answer.

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“Are house prices too high?” Messenger asked.

He wants to know if the leaders want house prices to go up or down.

Miles replied: “Yes, they’re too high,” which is a bit longer than one word, but he tried his best.

Crisafulli started off saying “they are...” and before he could finish, Miles interjected: “Yes or no.”

Crisafulli snapped back: “That’s a yes, but I do have the intellectual rigour to answer as well.”

Miles laughed and said “apparently”.

Anyway, Crisafulli then took the opportunity to explain for some time about fixing the supply of housing, infrastructure, the social housing waiting list, urban infill, high-density units, and a plan to roll out schools and hospitals, before apologising for the long answer.

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Are they stepping out of the shadows of Palaszczuk and Newman?

By Cameron Atfield

AAP’s Savannah Meacham has a question for both leaders – have they been able to step out of the respective shadows of Annastacia Palaszczuk and Campbell Newman?

“I reckon I have,” Premier Steven Miles says.

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“I’m pretty proud of what we’ve been able to do over these last 10 months – record cost-of-living relief, $1000 energy rebates, 50 cent public transport fares, $200 Fair Play vouchers, 20 per cent off rego and we have a plan to do so much more.

“And that’s all that’s all been this year alone.

“David stands there and tells you that things were better 10 years ago. That means he thinks they were better when he was there in the Campbell Newman government.”

Opposition Leader David Crisafulli points out Newman is now a member of the Libertarian Party.

“He’s now campaigning against me at this election, so I don’t have to run away from a record of a government I’ve been involved in for the last 10 years because Mr Newman has made a different decision and gone in a different direction,” he says.

“And I don’t wish him any ill.”

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