Moderator: Global platforms are hitting our shores how long until Amazon is in healthcare?
Panelist Turner: The future is not determined. It's the next 15-20 years for industries like agriculture and healthcare that will be critical. We have strengths in food, the ocean...if we get our act together we could really lead in these areas. In my mind there are too many spectators and not enough people getting on with it, we need to get behind the many start-ups getting on with it.

Moderator: But the jobs aren't there?
Turner: Think about two or three steps ahead of industry 4.0 where we can quantify the delivery and risk. It's happening now. Agriculture giant Monsanto sells the guarantee of crop yields, not the seed. It is hard, it's deep science and deep tech and we have strengths there too. That's why as a country we need to get on with it.