Less than six minutes in, Jackie Henderson – Jackie O to her millions of radio listeners – is discussing vibrators. Specifically, the often-sold-out products sold by Gwyneth Paltrow’s Goop that her agent and now business partner Gemma O’Neill recently bought while in the United States.

“They are very good,” says O’Neill, sitting next to Henderson, who is barefoot and curled up on a sofa, laughingly questioning whether this is really The Australian Financial Review territory or whether they’ve gone off course.